Daily Archives: July 1, 2015

Why juggalos are a gang and should be treated like one by the FBI.


The FBI has as much right to express their opinion, based on observable behavior,. of any Group that draws the attention of Law Enforcement while dressed in the Colors/costume of their Group. Motorcycle Clubs go through much worse because thay are all categorized in negative terms unless and until their law Enforcement comes to know that a particular Club is or is not worthy of LEO Scrutiny.
This Group has one characteristic that would give pause to law enforcement most anywhere, and that is their Costume is a Functional Disguise of the Person. With Tattoos and Body Paint which makes Identification Difficult, at best, and mostly impossible at at any distance. If the Members of any of the associated Groups are committing Crimes under Club Costume/Colors, they have no one to blame but them selves for the developing negative opinion of Law Enforcement who , for good Reason pay particular attention to self Identified Gangs, Cartels, Clubs etc. That is one of LEO’s specific duties.
The Mafia were not Choir Boys, the Crips & Bloods are not Social Clubs, and the Hell Angels, Free Souls, Bandiditos etc… are not akin to the Shrine Temple Motorcycle Clubs.
IMHO this group has filed a nuisance law suit against the FBI for doing it’s job. Part of which is Vetting Recruits for Military Service, Sometimes the choices we make in life have unplanned consequences.

Bet some Ms-13 and cripps wanna be soldiers too?


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/30/juggalo-army-recruits-join-suit-against-fbi-over-being-listed-as-a-gang/

Several U.S. Army recruits, who also happen to be fans of the rap group Insane Clown Posse, are suing the Federal Bureau of Investigations over the classification of the “Juggalo” fan base as a “hybrid gang.”

Sgt. Robert Hellin, who has multiple Juggalo tattoos, claims that his musical taste “places him in imminent danger of suffering discipline or discharge from the military.”

Another plaintiff, Scott Gandy, claims that he was unable to join the Army because of his love of Insane Clown Posse.

ICP rappers Joseph “Violent J” Bruce and Joseph “Shaggy 2 Dope” Utsler are also plaintiffs in this case, which is being backed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan.

The issue at hand is whether an FBI report from 2011, “National Gang Threat Assessment: Emerging Trends,” unfairly characterizes Juggalos as criminals.

“The Juggalos, a loosely-organized hybrid gang, are rapidly expanding into many U.S. communities. Although only recognized as a gang in four states, many Juggalo subsets exhibit gang-like behavior and engage in criminal activity and violence,” the FBI report said.

When the rap duo first filed the lawsuit, they issued a statement condemning the FBI’s characterization of their fan base.

“There has never been—and never will be—a music fan base quite like the Juggalos,” the statement read. “While it is easy to fear what one does not understand, discrimination and bigotry against any group of people is plain wrong and un-American.”

“The Juggalos are fighting for the basic American right to freely express who they are, to gather and share their appreciation of music, and to discuss issues that are important to them without fear of being targeted and harassed by police,” ACLU Michigan attorney Michael J. Steinberg said in a statement of his own.

Juggalo supporters argue that the group itself is merely a music appreciation group, not a gang engaged in criminal activity.

“There is no data to support a broad-ranging finding that this group is engaged in criminal activity, because they’re not. Their primary purpose is to be music fans, and the vast majority are law-abiding people,” Saura Sahu, a lawyer defending the plaintiffs, said.

She also characterized Army rules about Juggalo recruits “erroneous blacklisting.”

The FBI, however, argued that they never characterized all Juggalos as gang members.

“FBI nowhere stated that all Juggalos are criminals, or all Juggalos are gang members,” Justice Department lawyer Lindsay Powell said in court.